Post-MSN Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner Information Session

Hi, Doctor. Jason.

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I was already panicking. I just sent an e-mail to you, 'cause I was like, Oh my gosh, it's 6:00.

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Yeah, we had a pretty good amount, which I'm excited about because even if they can't come live, they'll get the recording, which is really good.

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Hey, so this week and doing my telehealth and my private practice, I've been just like my computer has just been like shutting down. So if something like that happens while I'm presenting, you know with it, I'll and I'll bounce right back on, but hopefully.

And it might just be my telehealth platform. Hopefully it's not my computers.

You never know, 'cause sometimes this thing can be a little wonky sometimes too, you never know. But so I was like double checking the settings to make sure it was all good and I was like, I need to make sure it's the correct stuff getting in here.

Yeah, you've got a little echo where you suddenly for some reason.

OK, great.

They said that sometimes there's echoing for some reason this this week on these, which we usually don't get, but they said on the recording there's none. So I'm like, OK, well, I guess I can deal with that if you know, if it turns out better in the end. But welcome, everybody. Thank you for logging in to the online information session for the Postmasters program for Psych Mental Health NP.

We're excited to have you here and glad that you took time to log in and be with us. My name is Megan Jacob, I'm an enrollment services advisor here at UC and the culture nursing specifically for the online graduate nursing programs. But we're going to talk more today about the specifically the psych program. So if you are looking for a postmaster's program for psych mental health, this might this is probably going to be your stop. You're probably going to want to know more about this program and that's obviously why you're here. We're excited to have you here and logged in. Doctor Tyson's here as well and he's going to kind of talk in a couple slides and further introduce himself, but he's the program director.

And we're going to answer questions at the end. So we'll do like AQ and A, but feel free to enter them in there and we'll just kind of look at all of them at the end or you can ask them at the end. We are recording this session. So anybody that's logged in or really anybody that's registered is going to get a link to this recording tomorrow evening. So 24 hours after, which is really good to know that you'll get that and you can watch it later. You can also forward it to any colleagues or friends, maybe study buddies that you want to have. It's nice to have, you know, a friend go through it. A lot of times with this program, especially we get a lot of word of mouth of, oh, my friend did this and did really well. So feel free to forward it if you know anybody that might be interested as well.

But welcome. Like I said, we're going to be talking about the Postmaster Psych MP certificate program. Just a few things about.

The program itself, so our UC College nursing overall, I should say. So our vision is through the creative leveraging of technology, the College of Nursing will lead the transformation of healthcare in partnership, informed by the people we serve. The mission to develop nurse leaders who are empowered to generate, explore and apply nursing knowledge for evolving healthcare environments. And our core values are collaboration, accountability.

Integrity, respect and excellence.

Now these are just some kind of like fun facts that most people don't really know a lot of times about UC College of Nursing overall, but we're actually the 1st in the nation to ever offer ABSN. So our BSN program is actually the oldest by default. Obviously, we've been providing graduate level online learning specifically since 2007. So a really long time comparatively, especially to, you know, those other institutions out there. We've been doing it quite a bit longer. 84% of the college and nursing students actually attend their program online, which a lot of people do not know that either. And all full time faculty are certified in the specialty in which they teach, which you will not always find.

Quite a few of them, pretty much all of them from what I understand aren't working still most of the time, especially program directors are definitely working in their field. And I'll let Doctor Tyson talk more about his when I get to that slide. But you'll, you'll see what I mean when we get there for sure. And we do have a lot of layers of support, which I think is something that's really uncommon in online programs for sure. For example, I'm one, I'm an enrollment services advisor. I'm kind of the front end support, answering questions and providing more information that you need when you're doing your research on different programs and looking into programs.

And also assisting you through the application process if you do have any questions, whether it's about requirements or where should I send this transcript, that kind of thing. That's what we're here to support you and help you through that whole process. And then you also get assigned what's called a student success coordinator, which is going to be essentially your advisor, your main contact throughout the entire program. They assist with registering for classes, but also kind of like checking in to make sure everything's OK. A lot of time, a lot of times there's an online student. We don't ever want you to feel on a limb that you're out by yourself just in La La land with no one there as a lifeline or support or to check in on you and make sure.

Sometimes you don't even know that you need to ask a question until someone checks in with you. So they do do mid check insurance even if you're not reaching out to them. But if you do need something, they're your go to person when you're in the program, which is nice. You also have what's called a clinical site coordinator, which it's kind of just how it sounds, someone that deals with all things clinical related, you're kind of your go to if you do have any clinical questions on the front end during the program, that kind of thing. While you're an active student, you get assigned one that specifically works with the psych MP students. So they definitely know the requirements they.

Usually know the answer to what you're asking or they can help you find it, which is really nice.

They can also give you a list of sites that are in or around your area that have taken students in the past. We can't guarantee they're going to take you again or take another student, but it's really nice to have that in your back pocket just in case. We also have the program director as another layer of support, which is really great. Doctor Tyson's been the program director for quite a long time actually, I think, I think you took, I've been at UC College Nursing for like 9 years I think. And I think you were almost think it was Diana and then you took over almost immediately after I started. So it's been a a minute since he's been the program director and he's been doing really, really well.

As the program just keeps flourishing and growing and it word of mouth is just crazy for this program in the best way possible. But that's another layer of support is your program director. You can communicate with him directly while you're in the program, which is really great. And also faculty in general, if you want to reach out to them directly during the program, they're very open to that and very responsive, especially if you have questions about a particular something, an issue with the course or question with the course or something or with homework. Or should I do this? Can I do that, that kind of thing? Can I work ahead? Can I not? When is it appropriate? They can talk with you about that.

At any point during the program. And also there's a financial aid support staff that's specific to the online community. They're here to help specifically online students, which is really helpful. Cause a lot of times you're going to have, you know, a lot of institutions will have just an online person that helps everyone or an online staff that you know, they may or may not talk to online students. Very often this person specifically works with the online students specifically, which is really nice because they know that your situation might be a little bit different or it could be the same as an on campus person. But it's really good to know that we offer a lot of layers of support within our programs.

Especially for online graduate nursing programs. And I also want to point out too, this is a very, very high first time pass rate. Now this is the first time pass rate for the ANCC for the 2023 first time pass rate. That's our most recent one that we have. It's 95.38%. That is very high. This means that the students are really prepared for that exam to become a certified site NP. That's the whole, the whole game, right? To get ready to take that and do really well and to be certified is really what you need to do, you know, in order to practice. So that's the whole reason you're in the program essentially is to become a psych MP and you got to pass that exam. So that's one thing that we're really, really proud of.

And it's consistently been high since, since I've been here, honestly, and which is, like I said, a long time. So it's good to know that I'm going to turn it over to Doctor Tyson. I'll let you give a little more, you know, on your background and your, your, your tenure here at UC in general.

All right, very good. Uh, thank you very much, Megan. Uh, welcome everyone and thank you for your interest in, uh, and consideration of, uh, uh, applying for acceptance into the University of Cincinnati PMHNP program. I'm always amused by this picture because it's probably like eight or nine years old now and I, I look so much younger in it and I'm like, oh, it would be nice to continue to look like that. But again, my name is Doctor Lee Tyson and, and I am the program director. I want to tell you just a couple of things about myself. Not that I'm awfully important, but I do want to give.

You a little bit of flavor and taste as to kind of the experience that your faculty bring to this program into your educational pursuits. As Megan was saying, each and every one of us who are faculty at at the college existing, we are all active in the trenches. So none of us are like in these academic ivory towers completely layer upon layer removed from you, the student. We want to see you be successful. And so when a student is unsuccessful, really that is a poor reflection.

Upon faculty and upon our staff even because your success is our success. So we're your biggest fan. We're your biggest cheerleader. I went to a school and there during a season when sometimes the philosophy there was a nursing professors eat their young, they eat their own. And our program is not at all like that. The University of Cincinnati College of Nursing is not like that.

As far as what I am involved in, I am the program director. I own my own private practice that is one of the largest psych MP practices in the nation.

I consult other programs who are colleges who are developing PMHNP programs. I work as a psychiatric hospital instead of facility in Dayton that I work at my own practice. And let's see what else before this, just a little bit about me. I was actually a professional ministry. So I have a doctorate in theology as well as a doctorate in nursing practice. And so I also can therefore resonate with.

The pain and the difficulty and the challenges and the perplexities of trying to navigate real life, being an adult, being married, having kids, having aging parents, having illnesses, and all the things that can happen while you're being a student and trying to balance so many.

Mm-hmm.

Plates on these poles. So I had a person asked me recently, Doctor Tyson, how many poles do you have? And I'm like, I didn't understand what they meant, but they meant the spinning plates. And I guess I manage a good number of them fairly well, but I know that.

You are. If you pursue this program here or someone else, you're going to be managing a lot of polls. So again, we want you to be successful and we're going to be there to support you and undergird you and support you as best we possibly can.

OK. I guess we can move on to the next slide.

Sure.

A little bit about our program specifically. So what does a PMHMP do? Well, APMHNP in essence, I'll just kind of dumb it down a little bit for you. Not that you need that, but in essence, we pretty much do the same kinds of things that psychiatrists do, except we're not doing it from the discipline of medicine. We're doing it from the discipline of of advanced practice nursing. And so depending on your state, you may be able to do everything that a psychiatrist does. Then there's some states where there are or more limited roles.

But as long as you stay within your scope of practice and you're following the legal.

Revised codes for your specific state, there's a wealth of opportunities for you. So we diagnose, we prescribe medicines, we offer psychotherapy. We're one of the few disciplines that actually are licensed and trained to perform psychotherapy. So there's marriage and family therapist, there's licensed independent social workers, there's, you know licensed clinical counselors. So APMHNP is also can do that as well without any other additional special.

Licensure, though we would advise you to go and get some additional training if you wish to hang your hat on that. And as far as where are places for you to be employed, what's good for us, bad for the nation, but good for us that there is still a dearth of psychiatric clinicians. There are many rural areas where people continue to be underserved. Therefore job opportunity and compensation is really at a premium.

Still, we have PMP schools that are popping up really kind of across the nation. And so there is a little bit of competition for programs such as ours. But one of the cool things about UC is that I can assure you, you're going to get a top level, top notch education. You've got top notch faculty. You're in one of the oldest nursing schools in the nation and reputable nursing schools and highly rated. Another thing I want to say about me before I, I, I go on is that I have.

Served as the chair of the ANCC content expert panel and so I helped to rewrite I actually led the venture in rewriting the PMHNP certification exam. And so when that was happening I, I literally reviewed every single question and approved it or rejected it. And so while we have every opportunity because of my own knowledge about NCC and.

The testing protocols to teach to the exam, we did not do that. We teach you first and foremost how to be a successful PMHNP. And then when you graduate from this program, we're going to encourage you to go out and to take a specific course on how to actually perform and to do well on the certification boards itself. So our graduates, once they complete the program successfully, are eligible to sit for the NCC National Certification exam.

I would add that there is actually a new certifying body by the Advanced Association of Nurse Practitioners or the American Association of Nurse Practitioners, AANP. So The Academy Is now going to give an CCA little bit of competition. Up until last month, for years it had only been ANCC so.

ANP is coming on the scene. Our program is designed for RNS.

And people who are already advanced practice nurses who have a minimum of an MSN, you don't have to have ADNP, but if you have a DNP that is great and fine and maybe even better depending on your philosophy. And, but we also want to make sure that you're not an individual who just like, OK, I'm going to go to school, I'm going to get my BSN, I'm going to get my MSN, but I haven't worked a single day as a nurse. We want people into our pro come into our program who have at minimum a year experience doing nursing. And it doesn't have to be in psych. It can be at any discipline, but we at least want you.

To have one year of working full time as an RN or an APRN, this program as it says in the third bullet there or the 4th bullet there is customized based upon your, the applicant's previous educational experience. So if you've had particular courses, if you've had particular experience or training, etcetera, we will do our utmost to modify your particular individualized schema so that you're not.

You know, doing redundancy courses.

That makes sense. All of the courses that we offer are provided in an online format. There is a 2 day intensive during week six of your first semester in the program and we kind of stand alone in the nation as requiring that as well. It is virtual. We used to require students to descend upon our campus and it was really cool. But then this thing called the global pandemic happened and so we have had to adjust things and in fact we learned that we were doing it so well virtually.

That we have continued to do it that way because it is a significant expense for students.

To have to fly in etcetera. So OK, I think we can move to the next slide. There are some prerequisites.

Students must have completed a statistics course with a grade of C or better. If you're like me, statistics may not be your favorite course, but it is a necessary evil. Some of you may like it.

Mm-hmm.

But we expect that you would have had at least AC in that students must also have completed their BSN and MSN, so that that's actually not technically true there. You don't have to have ABSN. There are some folks who go into an accelerated program and graduate with an MSN, so that is acceptable. So you don't have to have the BSN, but you do have to have a minimum of a master's of science and nursing at a regionally and a nursing accredited institution.

OK. And students must, as I just said, have one year of RN experience?

There are these things called what we refer to as the three PS. The three PS stand for advanced pathophysiology, advanced physical health assessment, and advanced pharmacology, and all of these must be taught across the lifespan. Now, those of you who are already practicing Aprns, you're probably no brainer. You're already going to have these.

But you have to have these before you can get into the core schema of the program. And upon application and upon consideration to admission into the program, I will personally review your transcripts and make a determination whether or not you have all of the three PS. And what we don't want to have happen is that you graduate from our program, you're ready to sit for the exam, and then you apply for it with ANCC or a ANP. And they're like, wait a minute, this P or the none of these PS or one of these PS, you got to repeat it because it's too old or.

Because it wasn't taught across the lifespan or it was taught in conjunction with another piece. So all of these peas, again, pathophysiology, physical health assessment, pharmacology have to be stand alone courses, OK? And you have to get AB or better in them. And if I haven't said it three times already, they have to be taught across the lifespan. Why? Because the PMHMP certification is across the lifespan from cradle to grave, OK.

I think that's it for the three PS.

Megan, I think you're on.

You got it. You said it definitely correctly with those three piece. They're super duper important and we will check those Doctor Tyson will within your application. So the application, when Doctor Tyson reviews your application when you submit it through nursing cast, he he reviews it with a holistic review, which means he's going to look at quite a few different aspects and areas of the application, score them all evenly. For the most part. There's really not one section that's heavily weighted more than another in any way. It's really about the whole package. It's not necessarily just about grades, GPA, things like that. It's going to be a lot of things.

He's going to look at when you apply all Python system called Nursing Cast, which is a third party centralized application system that we use. You're going to apply through there. You'll add the University of Cincinnati as one of your programs or schools that you're interested in. And then you should see the site gap that's open. The one that's open right now is for fall class is beginning in August and that deadline is July 1st. Talk more about that later. But when you apply, you're going to upload a copy of your current unrestricted RN license. This could be a screenshot from your State Board of nursing. That will be OK just to show us it's active and unencumbered.

And then you'll also upload a copy of your professional updated resume or CV. This shows us obviously your work experience, that you have at least that year of RN experience and really anything else that you want to highlight professionally that you'd like Doctor Tyson to consider. Make sure it's on there. And then your personal goal statement. The goal statement is really your chance to say why psych? What has LED you to this point? What would make you, you know, you can talk about your passion for psych, you know it, expand on it a little bit further. And that's where he's going to look at your writing skills, but also your career goals. And do they line up and match up with this program? Is it a good fit from that perspective?

Three professional recommendations. These can be professional or academic. Most end up being professional, but occasionally there's an academic one in there, but one from a current supervisor if possible. Sometimes it's not possible, but if it is or that would be great. Or a previous supervisor if you have a good relationship with them. People that can speak highly if you speak to you. Being ready for this role and the responsibilities of being a psych MP. The great thing about the reference portion for you is that all you do is enter in their name and their e-mail and then you can hit submit. Even if they have not done it yet, they have a grace period to get that completed.

Another item that has a grace period is going to be your transcripts. You're going to need to send all official transcripts from anywhere that you've ever attended. So anywhere you've ever gotten credit, whether it's undergrad, grad, even non nursing degrees, you're going to make sure you list those schools in your academic history and send those official transcripts right to nursing cast. Nothing actually comes to you see, it all goes to nursing cast, but that's those are kind of the the main requirements. The last thing I'll talk about is complete coursework entry. We do require full coursework entry because this section calculates your overall GPA as well as your science GPA, which is part of what he's going to score when he reviews this application.

With his team, umm, they'll look at that. You can opt to do it yourself by looking at a copy of your transcripts and typing it in as it appears on the transcript and the grade you received. Or there is an option through Nursing Cast to pay for Pte is what they call it, professional transcript entry. The cost varies depending on how many transcripts you want them to type in, but you can opt to pay them to do it for you. And it means once they get all of your transcripts in addition you're sending them, they'll type it all in once they get it and once they have all transcripts. Now the application process works kind of like this. So you'll complete that application in Nursing Cast.

You typically will pay an $80.00 fee when you submit nursing cast talk with your enrollment services advisor. So I have a team of people that work, you know, with me on these nursing applications with, with applicants.

And let us know that you're ready to submit when you've started in all four sections are complete because we have nursing cast waivers available that will waive that $80.00 fee. They're an individualized code that you copy and paste. So let your enrollment advisor or any enrollment advisor for the nursing programs know when you're, when your application is showing as fully complete and ready to submit. Let us know you're ready for one of those codes and we'll e-mail or text it to you and you'll copy and paste it in there. Like I said, it takes off the $80.00 nursing cast app fee so that you don't have to pay that. So let us know and you can submit. Like I said before, even if transcripts aren't there yet or references haven't done their recommendations, there's always a grace period for those items as well as that Pte. If you pay for that, they have a grace period to get it done too. They in fact won't get started on it until, like I said, they have all of your transcripts, but also until after you've submitted it puts it in their queue, basically.

Puts it in line, but also you must be in what's called verified status to move to the next step, which is to be reviewed. Right now, we're currently waiving the UC app fee, which is normally $20.00. So that's being waived right now for fall, which is great. So once it's verified, we'll send it for review that following Friday, whenever that happens to be. We do not wait to send verified applications. We send them as we get them right to Doctor Tyson and he reviews them. From that point, it could be like one to three weeks or so to hear an admissions decision. We try to do it as soon as possible. I know Doctor Tyson's pretty quick about making sure 'cause he knows what he's looking for. Essentially. He's been doing it a a while, so he knows what he needs.

In there, but we will try to get you the decision as soon as we can and it'll come via e-mail, but your enrollment advisor will also be looking out for it on their end too. In case you miss it or something. We'll let you know too. Umm, but let us know when you're ready, umm, to submit before you click submit so we can get you one of those waivers 'cause we're happy to help there in any way that we can. This is the tuition breakdown. So the in state navigate are not super different in general for this, this program. The total is going to vary depending on whether or not you have your background with the three PS or not.

But the out of state total cost per credit hours 907 the in state is 892. And then there's a $31.00 bloodborne pathogen fee that's assessed once an academic year. So every 3rd semester. So for this program, usually you're just going to pay it once. Sometimes you have to pay it twice. If you do have that, that there's three PS that you need to add because that would add additional semesters onto it if you need it. The the certificate programs is important to know are not eligible for federal financial aid. So you wouldn't be able to use the FAFSA to seek financial aid for these programs. Students most commonly do pay for these courses by setting up a payment plan with a bursters office. There's a there's a couple different options, but the most popular one is going to be.

Three payments over the course of each semester. So it's not all due up front if you are paying out of pocket through a payment plan. And also it's important to remember that this program is part time only and it's part time for a multitude of reasons really. One is so that really you can continue to work a little bit more easily than you would with like a full time program. Some students do, some students don't. I would say quite a bit work while they're doing the program, a vast majority of them. But that also helps to keep the payments down as well because you're not taking as many credit hours at a time. So that's helpful to know. There's also private loan options too, if you want to go that route, you can.

Not, not tons of students do it. I would say most do the out of pocket payment plan type thing, but you can definitely pursue that if you're looking into it and you want to consider this before applying. If you're worried about funding kind of getting ducks in a row before you get to that point, 'cause we don't want you to get there and then we'll have to, you know, finagle some things and help you out. We don't want you to be stressed out about that in any way. So it's just important to know that on the front end, I think. And you can also ask your enrollment services advisor about the university to business scholarship program that we have. If your employer is AU to B partner, you could receive anywhere from 5 to 15% off the instructional fee.

The form of a scholarship. So ask us if they are a partner, if they're not already. You can forward like a brochure and more information to your HR benefits coordinator and they can become a partner at no cost. It doesn't cost them anything to be a partner. So that's helpful to know too that it's still possible even if they are not already one.

And the next loop sign is clinical requirements. This document you can see on our website, but also you can get it from any enrollment services advisor as well. But it's super helpful because it tells you acceptable types of sites and preceptors.

Yes.

For each clinical in the program before you even get into it and also how many hours? There's 504 total with this program and you'll do 168 in each semester that you're doing the clinicals. They usually start in the second semester, which is helpful to know they'll be pushed back a little bit if you do need to add those three PS on the front end, but you'll you'll begin them just after you've completed that kind of stuff. But this is super helpful because it's going to tell you the also the clinical focus, like the first one, I believe is therapy based, right? Doctor Tyson. I think as far as who do who you can do one under, you can do it under anybody license to do therapy, which is a nice thing to know upfront what your first one is like.

I think before you get into it, I don't know if you have any insight on the clinical aspect of it. Doctor Tyson and what they want to look for should look for that kind of thing.

As you were saying the clinical I I think I understand your question. The clinical one is completely psychotherapy and the appropriate preceptors would be someone licensed to do therapy but not a PMHNP because must be MHM. PS actually don't do psychotherapy, they do medication management. Clinicals two and three would be psych MPs or psych CNSS or psychiatrists either or eligible or board certified.

In this document, like I said, we can get it to you, but also we're recording this session so you can kind of pause it and look at it too if you want to. But I believe it's on our website too. Or your enrollment advisor can send you a copy of it too. If you're just like, hey, I want to look at it in more detail or something like that. That's OK, we can send it to you. We do have some state restrictions for this program. Every program, every College in general really has a restricted states is as a result of a state boards of nursing and the DOE higher education regulation changes. University of Cincinnati College of Nursing cannot accept applications.

For distance learning programs from students residing in the following states, that will be Arizona, Louisiana, Massachusetts, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, and Tennessee. Like I said, it's just due to those states, State Board of Education and Board of Nursing. A lot of times it's in an effort to keep the dollars within the state. From what I understand, for most of the time, that's usually what it is. But if you live in those, you cannot apply to the program and you cannot do clinicals in any of those states as well. So that's really good to know. I think ahead of time too, if you're like a travel nurse or if you plan on traveling military families, stuff like that. It's important to know that.

And I think we'll open it up to questions now if you guys want to ask some questions of Doctor Tyson, which I already see some in there, which is awesome. I read that there's no financial aid available for this program. There isn't the federal financial aid, it's not eligible for it. Most certificate programs across the country are like that. They're just set up that way. It's just the nature of it a lot of times. Another thing too, to keep in mind is a lot of folks are out of eligibility by the time they get sometimes to the certificate level because they've done an undergrad and they've done a graduate and things like that. So that's another aspect and factor.

But this one, like I said before, we keep it part time only to sort of help out with that a little bit to keep the payments down, make it a little bit more manageable to do while working if you want to continue to working while you're doing it. So hopefully that helps a little bit. And the payment plans are kind of nice because they're not due all up front. You know, at the beginning of each semester, you pay three different payments every semester, which is very good to know up front. I think if you have any sound issues, if you just log out and log back in, sometimes that helps. But sorry, I'm sorry, I didn't see that earlier.

But we will, like I said, we're recording this so you can you can watch it later and kind of listen later if you'd like to re listen. What happens if you're in AGPC program that was adolescent to the to the the grave. No PEDs Dr. Tyson, I think you can.

I can't see the chat so read it one more time. What happens with what?

So, so they're in AGPC and they didn't do the three PS, you know, across the lifespan.

Yeah, yeah. So unfortunately you would have to go, I know it sucks, but you would have to go back in and take the three piece again. It has to be a light across the lifespan. I sometimes get the question when I answer that and and the person's like oh, so frustrated. Well, can I just go in and get them for take certain modules and get them just for the the piece portion? Unfortunately that doesn't fly with a certifying body. So that would mean it's possible that your pharmacology might have been taught across the lifespan.

And you didn't know it, but the other two, more than likely you would have to repeat.

Yes. It's not us. It's it's yeah.

And it, and it is a national certification requirement. Just so you guys know, it's not just the UC requirement. We just don't want you. Like Doctor Tyson said earlier, we don't want you to get to that exam and then say no, no, no, you can't do this. And then all your hard work is for nothing essentially. So we don't want to do that or end up taking it and then having to take it anyway at that point, which is a bummer. Have the dates been identified for the fall intensive sessions is the next question.

You're kind of echoing right now, Megan, so I'm having more time hearing you so.

Hi, they're asking if the dates have been identified for the fall intensive. I believe it's in September.

Yeah, it's it is always during Week 6.

And on the Wednesday and Thursday of week six of the semester, so I don't have an academic calendar in front of me, but it's always, it's like clockwork there, even if it's.

Yeah, yes.

Yeah. And you would have ahead of time for sure from your advisor, she would make sure Brianna's really great. She's the the advisor for this program, the student success coordinator. She definitely knows when exactly they're going to be and let you know ahead of time, which is really helpful. Our classes full semester or accelerated. So I think this means are they half and half or are they across the whole semester?

And their, their full semester there. We don't do miniature semesters or quarters or anything of that nature. So it's the, the long run, the the 14 ish weeks depending on whether it's fall, spring or summer.

Not in this program, yeah.

Yeah, We don't do the half and half thing unless it's a specific situation. Like there's one FNP course that's split, but that's more just that's more functionality for that program. It's not for for squeezing things in. We don't really do that. Our semesters are either 15 or 16 weeks and you'll take, if you see a semester, see a schema and you see two classes in that semester, that means you're taking them at the same time across the whole shebang, which is helpful because then you're not squeezing it all into a shorter amount of time.

Any other questions? These are all really great questions guys.

I'm going to approve them also. Then we can clear out the QLO. There are no site visits. No, this program is all done online. Like we said, there is one online intensive. We started doing that, you know, back in when the days of, of your of everyone else switching to online, we started doing that online too, even though we already did the program online. So I think it was an easier transition for us to do the site visit online versus a lot of other schools that are, we're not used to doing online learning. We've been doing online learning since like the early 2000s. So it was not super hard.

And we survey the students and they really liked it. So that's something that was really important to us to make sure that was good for them. What's next? The application deadline for fall is July 1st. You have to submit by 1159. Like I said, there is a grace period for transcripts to get to nursing cast as well as the Pte and the recommendations to be done as long as you've done your part. If it's showing all four sections as complete, again, let us know before you click that submit button and we will get you that waiver code to take off that $80.00 fee that they usually charge. If you want to make sure your resume is uploaded, your personal statement on the RN license to show it's active.

And then like I said, for references, all you're going to do is enter their name and their e-mail. They will get an e-mail right away asking them. So have them check, double check spam and junk too just in case. But this is kind of your next steps. July 1st is the date for fall. That's the fall date. So July 1st. And that's what classes beginning August 26th for the fall 2024 semester. We will open up eventually later this, like this summer will open up the the spring application with classes starting in January. If that's a better start for you, you can hold off and try that.

But right now, fall is what's open and there's still plenty of time to get that application. And if you want to start at the end of August, let me see here. I'm going to put the contact information up here. But if you've been working with myself or like any of my team, any enrollment advisors, just, you know, search for UC within your inbox probably and probably stuff from us. But we're happy to help via e-mail or you can call or text us at any point. But this is our main line and our main recruitment e-mail. If you can't remember who you were talking to, that's OK. You can, you can do this and get to the right person that way. If you do have questions, we're happy to help really at any point.

And we do hope that everybody applies for fall, obviously, but if that's if it's a better time to do spring, we do spring and we also do summer for this application for this program. So that's helpful to know as well. I know there's a lot of programs that just do once a year. So I think it's good to know that there's multiple for this one. Any other questions or anything that we can help with this? This has been really great.

All right, really good questions. Thank you, Doctor Tyson for joining us. Again, we're recording this, so if you want to forward it to any colleagues or watch it later, you can. But thank you all for coming and thank you, Doctor Tyson. Oh, we have one more question. How old can the stats class be? So that's a tricky question because it has to be AC or better and an undergrad stats class. If you've been working as a nurse traditionally, usually it's OK if it's a little bit older than the 10 year or you know, Mark kind of thing, meaning you're utilizing the skills that you would have learned. But if you haven't been working as a nurse, for what I understand, Doctor Tyson, correct me if I'm wrong.

If you haven't been then you may need to retake it but.

Yeah.

Yeah, as picky as ANCC can be a whole about a whole lot of stuff, they're they're really not that picky about the age of your stats course. So. But in theory, technically it's supposed to be 10 years or or younger, so.

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That's why.

Just another thing to think about guys for our program and, and, and maybe Megan had mentioned it in passing, but you know one of the cool things about use our program is that you can do your your clinical hours virtually. We don't encourage you to do all of them virtually, but we have been doing this a while. Other programs really had to shut down during the pandemic and we just kind of chugged right along because we have been doing this for quite some time. So and another thing that I was going to say is that.

Kind of got diverted a little bit in my own mind is that.

There are places for employment for psych M PSI mean there's just there's so many. You can work in a school, you can work in patient in a hospital, you can work outpatient. You can hang your own shingle if you want to do that. And you can work in, you know, incarceration facilities. You can work in federally qualified health centers. There's just such a huge need for individuals.

Like you who will have a special skill set and who have now even a special calling to do this type of work, which is truly a service industry so.

We do have one more question. Could you give examples of the courses you would recommend if one wants to focus on counseling?

Right.

So what I do?

That would be something that I would encourage you to do after graduating from the program because you're going to get a lot. And so I wouldn't encourage you to go and do something in advance when you're like, Oh, I got this already covered. So what I would do is I would say go and take workshops like if you want to learn like a specific niche of counseling, whether it's cognitive behavioral therapy or EMDR or, you know, some other type of therapy, dialectical behavioral therapy, that's a really popular one that some people will go and, and.

Specialize in neurodivergent therapy is a really big one right now as well so you know and there are great resources out there so.

Yes.

We do have one more question I think to confirm on the program prereqs, the UCAGPCNP program, the three PS are the same courses as the FMP program. So would these fulfill? Yes, correct. We require even for our adult program there across the lifespan just to kind of avoid things like this of retaking things. So we we do have RAGPC program. If you're an alumni from that program, you would be OK with your three PS as long as you've been, you know, working as as an NPS if it wasn't a long time ago.

Good question.

Of course.

All right. Well, these were excellent questions. Thank you guys again for joining us. We really appreciate you taking the time. And Doctor Tyson, thank you for joining us. I hope everyone has a great evening and hopefully we'll see your applications in before July 1st or fall.

Bye everyone.